Feature #878
Update Open Data Access draft
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ACTION: Colling to draft a disclaimer at next EB.
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Updated by Tunnell, Christopher over 11 years ago
Pending, e-mail from Colling attached to minutes.
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher over 11 years ago
- File data_access.doc data_access.doc added
Colling to send draft by today's EB, which he did. Draft attached.
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher over 11 years ago
Comments:
Torun - fine to say "can post data" but don't necessarily want to make everything available. Too open ended?
Palmer - what do LIGO and other open data statements say?
Blondel - can we form a small group to review this Bonesini, Torun, Rogers?
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher over 11 years ago
ACTION UPDATE: David Colling to form this group of three people (see above) to report on their comments.
Updated by Colling, David over 11 years ago
Will set up this grouping, but just to answer one of the questions raised, I believe that it does satisfy STFC policy as long as we make our software open source as well (which we have effectively done). STFC policy can be found at http://www.stfc.ac.uk/Resources/pdf/STFC_Scientific_Data_Policy.pdf
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher about 11 years ago
Current draft:
MICE Data Statement (Zeroth Draft)
The Muon Ionisation Cooling Experiment (MICE) has a policy of open data. This means that all of our data and meta-data is freely available to the general public and, more specifically, other members of the scientific community. However, we do place conditions of your use of our data. These are:
1. Any publication which uses MICE data but that is not produced by the MICE collaboration or has not gone through the MICE internal review procedure must contain the following statement:
“We gratefully acknowledge the MICE collaboration for allowing us access to their data. We also acknowledge that our use of these data to produce this publication does in no way make this publication sanctioned by the MICE collaboration. We also accept for responsibility for any errors in our understanding of the MICE data”
2. Support for non-MICE users examining our data will be at a best efforts level.We would consider it courteous if you informed us of any planned analysis publication using our data at the time paper submission.
The MICE Collaboration.
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher about 11 years ago
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher about 11 years ago
Bonesini to read. Torun, Rogers, Colling to form more elaborate plan since "if people look at uncalibrated data, anything can happen".
Should we have a data librarian?
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher about 11 years ago
- File Mail_Attachment.eml Mail_Attachment.eml added
Cobb¶
Dear EB,
The missive we received from STFC about Access to Research Publications is attached.
Publications & conference papers are mentioned. It doesn't mention data per se.
jhc
Bonesini¶
Dear John et al
it seems to me that what is strictly required is to have an e-print
(eg on x-Arkiv) of our relevant results. This is
coherent with what is done by LHC collaborations, where data are
private. In the present situation of shortage of manpower
in MICE I would avoid any additional burden on us that is not strictly
compulsory. Best regards Maurizio
Colling¶
Dear All,
Two things, firstly my apologies for missing this afternoon's meeting - it is the knock on effect of my very large teaching load this term. After Easter I will return to playing a full role in MICE (and CMS).
The second thing (which is in several parts) about data access.
- is that the full policy at http://www.stfc.ac.uk/Resources/pdf/STFC_Scientific_Data_Policy.pdf is quite explicit about data.
- also Maurizio I think that you are little behind the situation concerning the LHC experiments. CMS is planning to make its reconstructed (although not raw unless scientific competence can be shown) available to whoever wants it - there are some caveats but that is the essence of the policy. We are working with CERN and the other experiments to get a similar policy across the 4 experiments.
- it would be more effort for us to hide the data and so making it public is actually the easiest thing for us to do for ourselves.
Now back to writing an exam paper on particle physics.
Best,
david
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher about 11 years ago
- Subject changed from Draft Disclaimer for Open Data Access to Update Open Data Access draft
- Assignee changed from Colling, David to Bonesini, Maurizio
Some grumbling, in progress.
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher almost 11 years ago
In progress. Removing the action from agenda until Colling returns.
Updated by Tunnell, Christopher over 10 years ago
- Status changed from Open to Closed
- % Done changed from 0 to 100